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    • The Chevy Gas Guzzler MVP award
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  • 7/16/08
  • padreramirez
Way to set an example for the kids.
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  • 7/16/08
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It's a hybrid.
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  • 7/16/08
  • padreramirez
In name only.
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  • 7/16/08
  • Giglio

jd drew cant afford gas

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  • 7/16/08
  • Giglio

another way of showing a good example is giving a multi millionaire a brand new vehicle.

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Whatever you say.
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  • 7/16/08
  • HecklrEatr

2009 Chevrolet Tahoe Hybrid
21 mpg city/22 mpg highway

hybrid doesn't change that the Tahoe is a giant gas guzzler.

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  • 7/16/08
  • padreramirez

++A pampered multi-millionaire gets another new car and the example you're worried about is fuel efficiency? Yikes. ++

Call me crazy, but yes national securty issues are more important than a spoiled adult.

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  • 7/16/08
  • buntarosan

I truly agree. Heck with the future, heck with the environment, if you can afford it, burn all the gas you want, and think of all the swell stories you can tell your grandkids about how cool your huge bulgemobile was as they pedal their bicycles to work.

We keep this up, even the people that aren't stressed by high gas prices, a hard rain is gonna fall, not just on driving, but on heating, transportation costs, standard of living, everything.

21 mpg hiway, 20 city, my butt, the only thing green about that vehicle is the $ they'll make from the phony advertising.

Edited 7/16/08   by  buntarosan
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  • 7/16/08
  • jabloomf1230

I "like" the other GM ad for one of it's beasts, where it says their model is better than the Toyota 4Runner, since the GM SUV it will go much farther on a tank of gas. Is that because the tank is so big in the GM vehicle? Hmmm. Why not just make the whole vehicle one big gas tank? You could buy gas when it was cheap and cruise around for 6 months until the price came down again.

US car manufacturers make more profit per vehicle on trucks and SUVs than one small cars. As long as the government backed off on the CAFE standards, the US automakers were going to keep pumping these bloated sacks out for the consumers to drive around in. Now, it's a big calamity. I can't wait for Washington to start bailing out all the car companies. Unfortunately, they'll have to go to the end of the long line, behind the Wall Street guys, the failed banks and the airlines.

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  • 7/16/08
  • allan jb
I guess that for a vehicle of that size and HP,it's relatively economical,but I agree with the rest of your post.If I wasn't retired I surely would buy a Prius,but it's just beyond my means.Our 4 cyl.Optima(KIA) gets reasonable mileage on the highway(30-40)SO I think it will probably be my last car.
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  • 7/16/08
  • allan jb
You are absolutely right Jabloom,but they are just trying to get rid of their white elephants any way they can.People are still buying those gas thirsty monsters,why I have no idea.Look at Chrysler...two new vehicles and both are SUVs.
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  • 7/16/08
  • bdayettfan

I love how everyone loves to bash the american manufacturers. Does GM make mistakes? Sure, just like everyone else. but lets compare apples to apples.

Compare the Tahoe to the Toyota Sequoia or Nissan Armada. Non Hybrid version of the Tahoe gets 21 mpg on highway due to displacement on demand. Are Toyota and Nissan also big bad companies who are dumb too, for putting this type of vehicle on the road? are they also greedy because they make more on Sequoias than they do on Corollas? Fullsize Nissans (trucks and SUVs) are known mainly for their terrible mileage.
My wifes car is a Lexus ES. It doesnt get any better gas mileage than any other midsize car Ive driven recently. But to hear you people tell it, you would think the Toyota product gets double mileage of the stu.pid americans

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  • 7/16/08
  • jabloomf1230
The difference is, is that US government won't have to bail out Toyota, Nissan and Honda and the boys in the beltway wouldn't consider that course of action anyway. US corporations and their toadies in Congress are always whining about both Guv'mint regulation and bureaucratic interference, but the free-marketeers are first ones to step in and bail out those same US scions of industry.
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  • 7/16/08
  • bdayettfan

The Govs are the ones that made it too easy for Toyota and others to compete here in the first place.

Also lets see how cost effective Toyota is after being built here for a couple generations. Gm was at one point paying 2.5 persons worth of benefits for every 1 working. They started each car almost $4500.00 in the hole. It is alot easier hiding that 4500 in a $48000.00 Tahoe than a $12000.00 Cobalt.

You act like the big US corps are the only one in bed with the gov'ment. How do you think Toyota and Honda and Hyundai pick where they are going to build their factories here? It goes to whichever lowcost labor hillbilly state gives them the biggest tax break.

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  • 7/16/08
  • buntarosan

It's really unfortunate that people don't realize that burning away all the gas on stupid automotive indulgences isn't going to just effect driving.

Heating, food, everything, it will eventually end up with a lower standard of living for the average person.

Think of oranges as once a year Christmas luxuries in the midwest, they were 100 years ago. Or fresh vegetables in the winter.

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  • 7/16/08
  • bdayettfan

Its really unfortunate that people dont realize that every lifestyle doesnt fit into a Prius.

There is actually a need for fullsize trucks, SUVs, and vans. Some owners dont need them but many many do

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  • 7/16/08
  • buntarosan

To save you time, I don't read your posts.

(But I bet if I'd read this one you'd blame the price of oil on Theriot).

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