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    • BOB MELVIN = MANAGER OF THE YEAR 2012!
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  • 9/13/12
  • rushhead

I wrote this back in July! Even Dave Justice thinks that Bo Mel should be a slam dunk for this award.

If Buck wins it from the d a m n Orioles then it will simply be an East Coast Bias Con.

F THAT!!

MELVIN SHOULD WIN THIS AWARD BY A LANDSLIDE!!!!

BOB MELVIN I LOVE YOU!!!!!!!!

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  • 9/13/12
  • catfish71
Sure glad BB didn't listen to some of the posters here and hire a "name" manager like Bobby Valentine.
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  • 9/13/12
  • Afan2
BoMel should be manager of the year. If the A's don't make the playoffs and the O's do, it might not go that way. But imho it's a slam dunk.
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  • 9/18/12
  • AngSabPHXnitemare

I too would hope for BoMel to win it but if i am to vote, it will go this way and forget the East coast bias crrp....

I will vote for the manager whose team can win their division first....then who could take their team the farthest during the playoff if both can get on as wild cards.

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  • 9/18/12
  • esyiam
problem with that is that postseason shouldn't count towards Manager of the Year, it's only for the regular season.
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  • 9/18/12
  • AngSabPHXnitemare

It's 2012 year of baseball all season long.....

So whoever can guide their team to win the division, he is it...the manager of the year!

And if both teams do win their respective divisions then again....the tie breaker goes to the man who guides their team to be more successful by going through farther to the playoff. And if both teams are to play against each other during the playoff, the one who will get the vote as manager of the year in the AL would then be te manager of the winning team....simple as that.


Edited 9/18/12   by  AngSabPHXnitemare
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  • 9/18/12
  • esyiam

again, it's NOT as simple as that.

postseason DOES NOT factor into selecting manager of the year awards.

you're possibly right, in that, if one manager guides their team to win the division over another, that manager will probably get it. however, either of their postseason success (if they both win the division) will not dictate why one manager wins it over another.

if so, ask Ron Washington, Bruce Bochy, Tony LaRussa, etc. in recent years past why they didn't get the award over others even though they went further in the postseason than the eventual winners of the awards.

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  • 9/18/12
  • AngSabPHXnitemare

Well, for these 2 managers, that would how I determine who the winner would be because both deserves it especially for Buck Show whose team was really worst than Melvin's last year and previous.

But don't you know that with 3 weeks Still to go.... the gold glove voting for 2012 is already over? I just heard it this morning from 95.7 radio. I hope The manager of the year is not because if it did Buck may already have got it because of...again...the ears cost bias cr.ap.


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Edited 9/18/12   by  AngSabPHXnitemare
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  • 9/18/12
  • esyiam

No offense to you, but i guess i'm glad you're not a part of that selection panel. ;)

Regardless of how the standings finish, i would honestly still give it to Melvin. I'm trying to be as unbiased as possible here too. Sure, the Orioles were bad Last season, but so were the A's. The A's only had a few more wins than the Orioles so i wouldn't totally saythat Showa,ter has the clear edge there.

Melvin was interim manager last season and pretty much got a brand new team for 2012. Showalter didn't have as much of a personnel change as Melvin did. Whether people believe it or not, the AL West is a more competitive division and the record(s) speak for themselves. Showalter also has AS talent on his roster in guys like Markakis, Jones, Betemit, etc. Reddick should've been an AS talent but he wasn't a solidified player the way some of those Orioles players are.

Think about it, the A's OF was an unknown Cuban player, an aging, DL-prone, weak-armed CF, and a RF who supposedly wasn't good enough to play everyday. The IF had holes at the corner positions, and a decent middle IF. The rotation was pretty much brand new with Mac as the ace (who is a solid #3 starter, IMO), an aging Colon, rookie Milone, etc. Then you have to consider the injuries and turnaround that Melvin had to figure out as well.

I think Melvin should still be the favorite even if they only get the first WC while the Orioles win the AL east. Just my opinion though.

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  • 9/18/12
  • frame_rate
So essentially Angsab your deciding between 3 teams in each league. That really limits who you can vote for. I never thought manager of the year OR MVP had to come from a winner. Who had the highest war is what the awards are about to me.
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  • 9/18/12
  • AngSabPHXnitemare

Of course, manager of the year would have to come from a winning team and the A's and Orioles are now winners regardless of what happens the rest of the season.

I am an A's fan, live here in the silicon valley and not bias....but like the East coast fans, I just think that Bucko Showalter should win the award if season is to end today. I do like Melvin to win though for his sake doing an excellent job like Buck.

The only reason I think Melvin will win it is if our A's win the division (hopefully) while the orioles do not win theirs. And if both do win their respective divisions, then perhaps the playoff would help out in determining it after all it is still part of the 2012 season.

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  • 9/19/12
  • tenace18

The playoffs have no bearing whatsoever on any of MLB's awards because all voting is completed before the start of the postseason. Therefore, before the first pitch of the first postseason game is thrown the MVP's, Cy Young Awards, Managers of the Year, Rookies of the Year, Gold Gloves, etc. will have already been decided. That is because these are Regular Season Awards. And by definition, playoff games are not part of the Regular Season.
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  • 9/19/12
  • AngSabPHXnitemare

I knew that too...but for me, that is the way I would make my decision on who is the manager of the year because to me it is still the most important part of the season. If you are a manager and player, is it not what you want to win it all?
I knew the gold glove voting is done too with still 3 weeks to go, only they are not going to give us the result... I heard this from radio 95.7 when they were discussing about the defensive stellar job Gnats SS Crawford has been doing lately.

I follow baseball daily not only the A's and the Gnats and to me, Buck is doing a better managing than Melvin. Again, i also want Melvin to win it that is why i am giving him a shot....hoping the A's would also win their division and even goes farther into the playoff so he can have a fair shot of winning the award for if voting is today, Buck has it already nailed which I doubt it has anything to do with east coast bias.

Buck was soooooo instrumental in his team winning their game last night.....his timing of making moves were beautiful. Many times, his team could have loss that game....if Melvin was on the saddle.


Edited 9/19/12   by  AngSabPHXnitemare
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