Harrell has been a pleasant surprise, but come on ... he isn't an Ace.
Who is on our staff?=====
Nobody is an ace on this team. IMHO, an ace doesn't = the best SP on a club. An Ace is an elite SP in the league. 86Ks over 120 IP and a 1.34 WHIP doesn't scream Ace material to me.
"Could be 11-5 on an average team."
Well, the average Run Support for a SP in the League is 4.4 run support per Games Started (RS/GS). Harrell is currently getting 4.7 RS/GS per game. It's even less for NL SP. 4.3 RS/GS is the average.
Go ahead and call Harrell an Ace, but don't is claim he is an 11-5 pitcher on an average team when Harrell gets better than average Run Support. Ignoring the stats and making hamburger metaphors doesn't change the facts.
"Harrell gets better than average Run Support"
Three runs is better than average? Take your top pitchers, last year, this year, whatever, and see how many runs were behind them? You should be able to pull up a stat for that. I'd guess that it is about 5 for a season. Harrell left several games with a lead and our outstanding bullpen went to work.
Three runs is better than average?=======
You really think that my posts stated he gets 3 runs of support and that is above average?
Kinda pointless to write anything else.
First, you have to love Harrell's passion and hustle. When he bunts or hits the ball he runs down the line likes its the World Series final game.
Look, from spring training on ASH hasn't liked Harrell. Harrell is a ground ball pitcher supreme and some nights that means that the balls will find the holes. ASH pulls some SABRE METRIC stats out of his waazoo that he uses to say Harrell is this or that. Like not enough K's.
But, over the past say 10 starts he has been striking out more hitters. And, ASH is right that has helped him.
Right now Harrell's stats make him one of the top couple rookie pitchers in the NL. And, for a guy fighting to make the team in ST he has handled the pressure and the Astros rebuilding situation with great composure and maturity. Of course he played about 6 years in the minors and lost about 2 years to a shoulder surgery. So he is no kid.
*sigh* You still don't get it? You said Harrell would have a better record on an "average" team. That's the word you used. Ghick then informed you that Harrell has been getting BETTER THAN AVERAGE run support this year; the Astros have scored an average of 4.7 runs a game in Harrell's starts, while the National League average is 4.3 runs per game. In other words, you can't blame his record on the team not scoring enough runs for him. That's all Ghick was pointing out, but then you pulled three runs seemingly out of nowhere and missed the point.
P.S. you don't like "dude?" I thought that would be better than the other words I was thinking of, facing the lack of reading comprehension.
"Your comprehension is bad. Tonite was three runs."
No one was talking about just tonight. You said he could be 11-5 on an average team. He's averaged 4.7 runs of support in his starts.
"I'm not going to defend what I said."
What you said is simply indefensible.