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    • POLL: How many wins will the Rays have this year?
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  • 7/19/12
  • Casey
With the streak starting today that will be one in a row...
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  • 7/19/12
  • foleyzzz
How many games has JoeMa cost us already with his upside-down line-up?
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  • 7/19/12
  • lucas3

162 - (Pena's+Upton's strikeouts)/2

The formula wil be soon on the wikipedia.

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  • 7/19/12
  • tknrg

As I said back in the spring ... probably 81 to 85 wins ... BUT ... if anything significant went south ... winning 81 might become a challenge ... as well as avoiding 4th or 5th place in the AL East!

If the starting pitching (excepting Price) can become more consistent ... and if the bullpen remains as good as it was during the first half ... they might win 86 or 87 and still make a run at the second wildcard slot at some point ... IF ... they play as they did today ... rather than how they played last night!

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  • 7/19/12
  • tknrg

Pena already has 120 strikeouts ... and he's going to end up w-a-y beyond his usual 155 to 160! If he keeps playing as regularly as he's been ... he's definitely going to crack the 200 barrier!

I haven't looked it up ... but the Rays may be on the road to a MLB team total strikeout record!

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  • 7/19/12
  • oldtampian
My man Pena...poor washed up $7.25 mil Carlos...as of today has more Ks than total bases. This may be a baseball historical first for a full-time player. I simply can't imagine what a presence numbers like these add to the proverbial clubhouse. Dump Matsui, and give Pena the designated out spot.
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  • 7/19/12
  • foleyzzz
Let's face it with the majority of our guys Joe handles them with kid gloves and they respond with effortless performances! The exceptions being Matty J and Keppinger, who just happen to be our two most effective players! They KNOW that if they skkrewww up that they ride the bench; sometimes they ride it even after great games! Hence, the reason that they hit so well is because they know that Joe doesn't LIKE them! I wish that Joe would stop LIKING some other guys, ie: Luke, Los, and BeeJay, if Joe could motivate these klowwennnnnzzzzz, maybe they would hit!

Edited 7/19/12   by  foleyzzz
Edited 7/19/12   by  foleyzzz
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  • 7/20/12
  • Casey
There we go with that "IF" word again..
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  • 7/20/12
  • tknrg

As a person ... Pena just seems to be a truly special kind of guy ... truly one-in-a-million ... but ... I can't believe they kept him for the entire 2010 season hitting .195 ... and I'm even more surprised that there's a "second-time around" with that same .195 ... while he's also heading towards breaking the 200 barrier in strikeouts! Even with his defensive abilities ... it's still just inexplicable to me. (?)

At the least ... I'd let Matsui and Conrad go ... I'd bring Anderson and Wrigley up from Durham and give both a chance at playing first ... DH'ing ... and then playing spot centerfield and rightfield ... and I'd give Pena Matsui's seat in the dugout as the very, v-e-r-y occasional pinch-hitter.

Beyond that ... and sometimes I might actually give him credit for it ... Maddon frequently seems to get overly-sentimental about some of his favorites when it's past the time to have cut them loose!

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  • 7/20/12
  • d_ros

Casey, since ST I've said 85! I'm startin to wonder if maybe that number's a little 'lofty'?

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