After Ramirez knocked in the winning run I didn't notice Victorino in the pile-up between 2nd & 3rd. I'm not a fan of his at all but will root for him now because he's on the team. I'm not knocking him for his .255 average or the fact he's had just one hit since we traded for him. But where was he yesterday when they won the game? Hope he was just taking a dump. Someone please tell me that they saw him in there and that I just missed it. I replayed the ending a few times because it was really bugging me. Hope he's not already exercising he right to remain a d-bag.

Or perhaps he's one of the few smart ballplayers that have realized that it is way too easy to get hurt on one of those pile-ups.

That kind of stuff builds team chemistry, it's an old baseball tradition that goes back to little league. It may look like their being really rough with each other but, it's kind of like when a lioness holds her litter in her mouth (looks worse then it is).

"That kind of stuff builds team chemistry, it's an old baseball tradition that goes back to little league. It may look like their being really rough with each other but, it's kind of like when a lioness holds her litter in her mouth (looks worse then it is). "

Tell that to Morales.

Freak accidents happen all the time, its not the norm. Out of all the celebrations that go on everyday how many people get hurt?

Thats exactly whats going on, I bet if he'd been the one who tackled Ramirez he would have complained that he was to rough with him.

Yeah, it's not exactly the same, but remember when Kendy Morales of the Angels hit a walk off HR, and he came home where his teammates were waiting? He jumped up to stomp on home plate in celebration and broke his ankle really bad. He's been recoving from that for like 2 1/2 years. That ankle will most likely never be the same.

"In most cases, we wouldn't hear about it if it does happen. A guy making millions isn't in a rush to admit that he got hurt clowning around. Some of those pile ons get nasty looking."

"Nasty Looking" is the key here, it's not like if the guy being celebrated is really trying to get away when they tackle him. The first guy to reach him wraps his arms around him and he goes down slowly and then they all crowd around and slap each other on the back.

Imagine if we saw how these guys horse around in the hotel pool, or in the locker room? Celebrating after a win is just part of the game. Sure once in a blue moon someone will get hurt but, again that can happen doing just about anything. I think more players get hurt shagging balls in batting practice then they do in victory celebrations.

But that also doesn't mean we should be mad at players if they don't participate.

One of the strongest memories in my mind as a boy came in the 1988 NLCS, after the Dodgers clinched the pennant and started celebrating. I saw Gibby and another injured player (can't remember who) just shake hands rather than join the madness. I know it's different, they were hurt, but it really struck me that they were more focused on their health and winning more games than joining the fun. That indicated to me that they were leaders and focused on the team.

I dont get mad at any players for not participating in the celebtations, to each his own. I'm just saying I dont think many players have ever gotten hurt by this kind of stuff. when you figure how many celebrations take place every day let alone all year.

Just saying it would have been nice to see him out there, not necessarily on the bottom of the pile, but somewhere. Boron, that player you saw Gibby shake hands with after the Dodgers clinched against the Mets for a World Series birth was Fernando Valenzeula. Both of them were injured, Gibby playing through it, Fernando not pitching.

....or perhaps, he is thinking to himself "act like you have been there before"!

The only agenda I had was to see if anyone else had seen him out there. Relax cowboy.