Both fangraphs and baseball-reference have Trout at 3.5 Wins Above Replacement so far this season in 48 games. That's less than a third of a season, which puts him on pace for about 11 WAR over 150 games.
How many 11+ WAR seasons have there been in the history of the game? 16. SIXTEEN. Except for Barry Bonds, it's been done once in the last 45 years.
Players with 11+ WAR seasons:
Babe Ruth (six times)Rogers Hornsby Carl Yastrzemski Barry Bonds (two times)Lou GehrigCal RipkenHonus WagnerTy CobbMickey Mantle (two times)
He's 20 years old. The youngest players to post 11+ WAR seasons were Mantle and Gehrig at 24.
Lock him up!!!!
Don't get too hung up on small sample sizes of defensive WAR. It doesn't work.
True, but he passes the eye test, and that will work for MVP voters if not for WAR.
Still, he's tied for 8th in offensive WAR. Not bad for a 20 year old.
I've seen talk that his numbers aren't sustainable because the league will adjust to him and because of his high BABIP. What those people don't seem to realize is how quick he's been to adjust to those adjustments, even within games. And his BABIP is quite a bit lower than his career numbers. Granted, those are minor league numbers, but his speed and uncanny ability to square the ball make me believe he'll be able to keep it up.
How about those Nats and O's?
Have you been watching the home town teams lately? :)
Haha, I wish. I actually live in Seattle now so I'm stuck with the Mariners. On the plus side I get to watch more Angels games since they play the M's more often than they did the O's. On the downside, it's a dreadful team with a stadium that's not as good (or as cheap) as Camden Yards.
Back on the plus side, it's not 100 degrees with 500% humidity right now in Seattle - which is nice.
"I've seen talk that his numbers aren't sustainable because the league will adjust to him and because of his high BABIP."
I'm not exactly sure how BABIP works, but doesn't it work under the assumption that the average BABIP is .300 and so if you're BABIP is higher, that means you'll regress to .300 at some point?
Isn't that...ridiculous? For guys that are incredible hitters, SHOULDN'T their BABIPs be well over .300?
Trout is a guy who is legitimately capable of hitting over .300. He has a BABIP of .400 or so, which is insane, but then, he's an incredible hitter. He's above average, and he should always be above average. Therefore, HIS BABIP average should NOT be .300, right? Particularly since he doesn't hit very many HRs, which don't factor into BABIP? And he's likely not a guy with a sub .300 BA, so a BABIP of .300 means he would have a BA quite a bit below .300?
How ELSE does a guy like Trout, who also K's a lot, keep his BA up?
If I got this right, it seems like saber-geeks don't use their heads very much...
<Haha, I wish. I actually live in Seattle now so I'm stuck with the Mariners>
That's right. I had forgotten you moved to Seattle. IMO the talent in that organization is improving. Good pitching prospects on the way.
The Nats are the team to watch in the NL over the next few seasons though.
Yeah I'm sure the climate is better in Seattle. No sleepless nights for you anymore. Except for the rain I guess.
BTW Mike Trout is worth the price of MLB extra innings alone. Just saying..
There are more than just the peanut guys. Outside the Camden St entrance, there's usually a bunch of guys with grills cooking up brats and sausage and peppers.
I like it's because it's one of the few parks around today that don't think fans need to be distracted from the game with a concourse that doubles as a carnival.
You should change your screen name to exileinseattle.
Then again, that's a pain to read. :)