An arrest without a case definately means nothing. Not sure in Florida, but in Illinois.....

Once an offender is ARRESTED, you only have a certain number of hours to charge or release-usually 72 hours max. However, if the suspect comes in to be INTERVIEWED, which Zimmerman was, there is no time limit.

If the suspect gives an alibi, the police MUST break it, and that takes time. one way it can be done through locating witnesses, and having them come in to be intereviewed.

Evidence that was collected has to be worked up before any charges. That can take days, weeks or yes, even months.

THEN a State's Attorney (or District Attorney in C.S.I. speak) is brought in to review the case. It is the State's Attorney who then approves or rejects the charge for murder, not the arresting officer.

Once a person is arrested for murder, the suspect must go before a judge the following day for a bond hearing where the facts are presented to the judge. If there are still cracks in the investigation, the judge can release the suspect right then and there, so naturally the state wants the strongest case possible BEFORE that happens.

Everyone needs to take a deep breath with this case. I say bring in some assistance for the investigating department in case they do not have much experience with homicides.

Zimmerman will be charged with something, it's going to just take time.

Everything you said was not only common knowledge, but it sounded like you're working in media relations for the Sanford PD. The arrest should have been made by the cops on the scene, don't take my word for it, ask a cop his opinion. Detain, arrest, arraign, bail, trial. This is standard procedure throughout the country; the Sanford PD is at best, bad at their jobs and at worst, corrupt.

A agree with what you say to a point.....the point being that Trayvon had
a cell phone, he could and should have used it to call the police, had he
done that, I think the it would have turned out different....but what is the
difference, OJ was not even charged when they got him out of the car,
this happens often.... I know of a bar room fight where it was three weeks
before the man was charged and than he served six years for manslaughter.
In fact, I feel that this was not murder but manslaughter.....

Sounds like you are leaning towards sympathy to the guy who threatened the Sanford police chief.
Not to worry, the crack team of Eric Holder legal race beagles is on the job.

Yes, Sharpton tends to do that.....they say a picture is worth a
thousand words.....look at the pictures of these two....
Trayvon looks like a sweet young man helping a old lady across
the street and Zimmerman looks like a hood.....they have
Zimmerman in his 2005 orange jump suit, and Trayvon in a picture
from a few years ago looking like the boy next door.... show these
to the jury, say nothing and Zimmerman goes down......

The plot thickens, as they say...

"The new Black Panther Party offered a bounty of $10,000 Saturday for the “capture” of a Florida neighborhood watch captain who killed unarmed teen Trayvon Martin.

“An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth,” leader Mikhail Muhammad said after announcing the reward for George Zimmerman at a protest in Sanford, Fla.

Muhammad called on 5,000 black men to mobilize and capture the neighborhood watch volunteer.

“If the government won’t do the job, we’ll do it,” Muhammad said, leading chants that included “freedom or death” and “justice for Trayvon.”

Muhammad said New Black Panther’s chairman, Malik Zulu Shabaz of Washington, was taking donations from black entertainers and athletes."

www.nydailynews.com/news/national/black-panther-rage-10g-capture-trayvon-killer-article-1.1050370

A Florida man was also charged Friday with threatening to kill Sanford Police Chief Bill Lee and his family.

OJ is a horrible example to compare to this; not even apple/oranges, more like apples/bicycle. OJ was on a plane out of the state and lawyered up right away and still he was arrested a week later. I don't know what was in the kid's head, maybe he didn't feel as threatened as the situation dictated but even if he did call the cops he may have been shot anyway since the guy was basically stalking him.

No, that would be you spinning what I say. I'm going by the law, I leave emotion and race and other incidentals like that out because it clouds your judgment; no matter what side you're on.

You are 'going by the law' without knowing what the on scene determination of facts were, but conclude that there should have been an arrest, charges filed, bail set, trial schedualed, guilty verdict found and jail time? That sounds like isolated workplace violence doesn't apply, at least, as it's been noted at Ft. Hood. However, Florida law may differ the circumstances as in 'going by the law'.

since the guy was basically stalking him.

Zimmerman was following him, that is far different than
stalking, and the only point I was trying to make in the OJ
case, was that it did take a week....they didn't arrest him
when he got out of the car....

this is getting out of hand fast, groups putting out a bounty,
and whole basketball team wearing the hookie....

Bill Cosby seems to be able to look at things with an open
mind....he says that people get treated the way they want
to be treated, you dress and act like a hood and you get
treated like a hood.....speaking of hood, look at the case
at Fort Hood, Our President didn't call that murder, he called
it workplace violence.....

This case has so many lessons to be learned, for me one of
them would be, there have been robberies in this neighbor,
I would look first at Zimmerman, his looks and his past record,
don't think we was a great pick for the captain of the watch......

I have been not following this story too closely,since there was alot of heat but not much information. all we were told was that zimmerman followed the boy and that the boy was then shot we didn't have much details on what occurred that would cause this,just alot of speculation and accusations without any facts. mostly from preconceived biases that we get from the media.

now, we are starting to get more of the facts leaked,but it may be too late to help,as he has already been publically hung by the mob mentality we often see on people willing to judge without the facts.

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www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/news/state/witness-martin-attacked-zimmerman-03232012

The night of that shooting, police say there was a witness who saw it all.

Our sister station, FOX 35 in Orlando, has spoken to that witness.

...

The guy on the bottom who had a red sweater on was yelling to me: 'help, help…and I told him to stop and I was calling 911," he said.

Trayvon Martin was in a hoodie; Zimmerman was in red.

The witness only wanted to be identified as "John," and didn't not want to be shown on camera.

His statements to police were instrumental, because police backed up Zimmerman's claims, saying those screams on the 911 call are those of Zimmerman.

"When I got upstairs and looked down, the guy who was on top beating up the other guy, was the one laying in the grass, and I believe he was dead at that point," John said.

Zimmerman says the shooting was self defense. According to information released on the Sanford city website, Zimmerman said he was going back to his SUV when he was attacked by the teen.

Sanford police say Zimmerman was bloody in his face and head, and the back of his shirt was wet and had grass stains, indicating a struggle took place before the shooting.

Geraldo Rivera finds real culprit in Trayvon Martin slaying: The hoodie

This is the Mexican version of Al Sharpton.......

Good point, he probably didn't feel as threatened as he should have. From the way things sound so far though, I don't think a gun had been pulled at that point.

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hi towlie,I know I am breaking my own ban by posting,but this story seems to have gained so much attention with little facts known. I wasn't too surprised that the media would run with it as they often do before they have the facts. al sharpton's involvement alone should have made most people to think twice before jumping into it and taking a position. neither sharpton or the media seem to care about the truth,this seems more an agenda. sharpton,to get in the news and regain some of his standing again with the black community and the media, I suspect has a bias against florida 'hick' justice and saw this as an example to exploit.

read what I posted above to the other poster. we are starting to finally get some leaks on what actually happened. didn't it surprise you to find zimmerman was bruised and bleeding? that should have told us something more than just a chase was occurring here and perhaps there is two sides to the story. now, we have a witness saying he was being beaten and screaming for help (zimmerman). zimmerman should have knew better than to chase the boy,but the boy should have not responded in what appears to be anger and attacked him. both were wrong,but if this boy was in a gated community ,he should have realized he was tresspassing to begin with.

anyway,hope all is well with you. at times I may peek in to see how everyone is,but I am trying to avoid the silly partisan back and forth bickering that never accomplishes much. you and the other poster above are the exception to this stuff.

I posted that story yesterday, post #38, but no harm getting it on the board again...and no mention if the witness is black or Spanish, just no photo/annonymous to protect himself from the rabble meeting at Sharpton Corners...which would change Liberal's conclusions right away.

yes, I saw tht,but strangly it seemed ignored. I guess once we get things in our heads we believe something no amount of evidence counter is going to matter. I was surprised all the reaction this story received. there was so much information missing about what occurred and what little we did know didn't seem to point to any hate crime.

we knew zimmerman followed/stalked/chased this boy. after that,we don't know any details,only the boy was shot and zimmerman was hurt. zimmerman being hurt suggests there was some type of struggle before the fight. we didn't know who started it. it was being speculated that since zimmerman followed/stalked/chased the boy,that it must have been him that started the fight.

now, it appears another version ,told by an eye witness has it opposite. that zimmerman stopped chasing the boy and was walking back (as zimmeran says) and the boy attacked him and was on top of him beating him. zimmerman cried out for help (according to the eye witness). we also hear now that cries of help are heard on the call to police (which call?)

I know al sharpton won't ever back down. he has a record of ignoring any facts and goes with inciting the black crowds. I wonder though how the media will follow on this? will zimmerman be given any fair accounting? unfortunately too many people with agendas don't seem to care about the truth,just their agendas.

there is a race angle here,but it isn't the one that we are being told by the media.

I also see Mr. Zulu Shabaz, one of Eric Holder's "my people", trying to raise $1M from the concerned perpetual victims in DC and sports heros, so that the NBP's can have the 10 Grand bounty they are advertising. Call this the Trayvon Memorial Fundraiser.

I feel Zimmerman was in the wrong, but Trayvon should not have called his
girl friend, he should have called the police
...........

doesn't that not suggest him frame of mind? if you are threatened, do you call the cops or your gf? if I have someone break into my house, I don't call my gf to tell them about it.

it appears he had tresspassed. it is a gated community. its gated for a reason. if you pass over the fence you are tresspassing. you probably don't call the cops to report on someone following you in a gated community that you are tresspassing.

if the eyewitness acct being reported is accurate. there seems to be another version. he was upset. he called him gf to complain someone was following him. instead of getting out of the community he was tresspassing in,he notices the follower has turned and walked back. out of anger he attacks him.

is this plausable? the police seem to believe this version holds up more based on the eye witness acct.

I only hope if I had a son, he would not tresspass to take shortcuts and then attack someone that follows him afterward.

these people don't care about the kid,just the issue.

Bingo- pursuing and confronting are offensive acts- not defensive.
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we don't know any of this from the news. the only 'offensive act' we know is he followed him. did he confront him? zimmerman says he turned and walked back after a while. he then says the boy attacked him. this is his version. the only evidence we have is a report from an eyewitness saying he saw the boy on top of zimmerman beating on him. would at this point it turn from an offensive to a defensive act?

Yeah...great police work
..........

I will be interested to see if the media pick up on the local reporting. that a local news agency actually took a look at the police report,found there was an eye witness and learned from the eye witness that the version actually fit more zimmerman's story. if this is true, how were the police to act? arrest zimmeman for being attacked?