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From: moralist  11/18/2006 9:21 am 
To: ALL  (1 of 91) 
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1. In WBC, Ichiro Suzuki made a speech to make light of Korean baseball, but Matsuzaka did not say any word about Korea.

2. One of the players he holds the greatest respect for is Kim Byung Hyun, because he won big fame in Boston Red Sox.

3. Most Japanese girls are addicted to Korean boys and wanna get married with them, and his wife is Japanese.

4. I hear that his grandparents were forced to go to Japan as a labor before Pacific War began. Their real name is Park, but they made themselves Matsuzaka to escape from discrimination in Japan.

5. It is well-known that the brilliant people in Asia are all descended from Koreans. Matsuzaka, having an excellent ability, is Korean, too.

 
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From: HomeofChampions  11/18/2006 9:35 am 
To: moralist  (2 of 91) 
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Who cares. You guys need to get over your anscestral issues. We're all the same dude!
 
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From: TruBluSoxFan  11/18/2006 9:45 am 
To: moralist  (3 of 91) 
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Japanese.baseball.com has Matsuzaka's place of birth listed as Tokyo, Japan.

Web Search Results1 - 10 of about 958 for Daisuke Matsuzaka place of birth
Daisuke Matsuzaka - JapaneseBallPlayers
Daisuke Matsuzaka (Pitcher). DOB, Sep. 13, 1980, AGE, 26, BIRTH PLACE, Tokyo. HEIGHT, 182 cm, WEIGHT, 85 kg, BATS- THROWS, Right - Right ...
www.japaneseballplayers.com/en/player.php?id=matsuzaka - 21k - Cached - Similar pages



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From: deweyrooter  11/18/2006 10:15 am 
To: moralist  (4 of 91) 
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Thanks for sharing. May I present your post to my composition students as an example of logical fallacies?
 
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From: rtmerfer  11/18/2006 10:20 am 
To: moralist  (5 of 91) 
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By your logic, I may be Mexican. Thanks.
 
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From: pinky2006  11/18/2006 12:43 pm 
To: ALL  (6 of 91) 
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Koreans pathological mentality is driving people in Taiwan, Japan, and China to their wits' end...

(1) Koreans were once insisting that Ichiro was a Korean. But, their tone suddenly changed when Ichiro said at the WBC preliminary matches in Asia, "We want to outgame opponents to the degree of leaving the impression that Japan is unbeatable coming 30 years." (Ichiro said like that, but intentionally or inadvertently his remark was misleadingly translated in Korea.) Many hyper-reactive anti-Japanese Koreans literally hyper-reacted at his remark. They appears to have felt that they got mocked, and they are still with the feeling of being abused.. In fact, Ichiro didn't mean any insult to anybody. He just wanted to express his enthusiasm for WBC to inspire the team as the team leader. But, since then, many pathological Koreans have harbor deep-seated hatred against Ichiro too persistently.. Interestingly, they suddenly stopped rewording Ichiro was a Korean. Instead, their endless quest to diminish Ichiro began. They cannot stop. Koreans pathological persistence has been sickening Japanese people in every way. This is just one of those examples.

(2) Koreans insist that every shining Asian individual should be a Korean. That's their diseased fancy or pathological idiosyncrasy. In Taiwan, Taiwan people are really dismayed to know that Korean people are now insisting that Chien-Ming Wang (NYY) is a Korean. That made the big TV news in Taiwan, and Japan. Of course, Wang is not a Korean.

(3) In China, the same kind of trouble is happening right now. Koreans are now insisting that Confucius was actually a Korean, and trying to apply for their own ceremony dedicated to Confucius with the UNESCO World Heritage!! Not only this, but they are also insisting that it was the ancient Koreans that invented the Chinese writing system. They are also trying to apply for this surprising allegation with the UNESCO World Heritage in a serious manner. Chinese people are really pissed.

(4) Other hard-to-believe Koreans assertion.. you may laugh.. but they are serious believe it or not...
* David Beckham is a Korean. British people are descended from Koreans.
* Carl Lewis is a Korean.
* Korea is the root of the ancient Mesopotamian, Indus, Egyptian, and Chinese civilizations.

It's only a matter of time that Koreans starts asserting that Jesus Christ was a Korean. This is not a joke. SERIOUS!!

Personally, I suspect that their pathological mentality of this sort is the reflection of their inferiority complex.

 
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From: room925  11/18/2006 1:37 pm 
To: pinky2006  (7 of 91) 
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Totally agree. Koreans are the avatar of illusion-promoting allegation.

Koreans get engaged with great seriousness in activities trying to change the name of "Sea of Japan" into "Sea of Korea." They're also tying to establish territorial rights of Takeshima island that is actually the Japanese territory alleging that the island is Korean territory just as they're alleging all the high-caliber Asians are Korean descendants .... another illusion-promoting sleep talking. They are really pathological peoples beyond our comprehension as you appropriately state.

 
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From: tharkin  11/18/2006 1:49 pm 
To: moralist unread  (8 of 91) 
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I'm almost sure that nationality has more to do with where you're born than who your favorite ballplayer is.

It's possible he has Korean ancestry, but if he was born in Tokyo he's Japanese.

Tharkin

 
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From: HomeofChampions  11/18/2006 1:54 pm 
To: tharkin  (9 of 91) 
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You mean, I'm an American, not Irish?

Dang, no wonder I can't understand those guys from accross the pond.

;-)

 
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From: HawaiiMarinersFan  11/18/2006 2:17 pm 
To: ALL  (10 of 91) 
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This is what happens whenever a team signs a Japanese or Korean player. Japanese and Korean trolls. We got it with Ichiro. LOL

Edited 11/18/2006 2:17 pm by hawaiimarinersfan
 
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From: penguin8  11/18/2006 2:26 pm 
To: moralist unread  (11 of 91) 
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What motivates you to make people believe that Matsuzaka is a Korean?

Are you a Korean? or a Korean resident in Japan? ... just wondering if you have no patience for outstanding asian baseball players like D MAT being not an ethnic Korean?

 
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From: pinky2006  11/18/2006 2:59 pm 
To: HawaiiMarinersFan  (12 of 91) 
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Well, I've never seen anybody alleging that any Korean player or any Korean celebrity, if any, is actually a Japanese or non Korean. Have you? But, the opposite happens. It's always Koreans that begin hella moonshine. Why is this, I wonder?
 
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From: tharkin  11/18/2006 4:45 pm 
To: HomeofChampions  (13 of 91) 
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Haha. I'm in the same boat, but to make it even worse I've got some Scottish in me as well. They swear up and down they're speaking English over on the Old Sod, but I think really they're all laughing up their sleeves at all of us trying to break out their code.

Tharkin

 
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From: brenndino  11/18/2006 7:08 pm 
To: moralist unread  (14 of 91) 
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why dos this matter? I don't care if he is from the land of trolls as long as he can pitch . . .
very weird post
 
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From: Brenken  11/18/2006 7:55 pm 
To: tharkin  (15 of 91) 
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"but if he was born in Tokyo he's Japanese."

Not necessarily. My son was born in Norway but he's not Norwegian since his parents are both Americans. He can have Norwegian citizenship but he's an American.

 
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From: tharkin  11/18/2006 8:36 pm 
To: Brenken  (16 of 91) 
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I suppose that's true. But I haven't heard anything about both his parents being Korean and him being born in Japan, and with how desperate some people seem to 'prove' he is Korean for some reason, I'm sure it would have come up!

Tharkin

 
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From: Brenken  11/18/2006 8:42 pm 
To: tharkin  (17 of 91) 
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No, I don't think he's Korean but I did want to point out that being born in Tokyo does not necessarily make someone Japanese.
 
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From: milkyway777  11/18/2006 10:32 pm 
To: moralist unread  (18 of 91) 
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Here we go again. Once any Japanese athlete gets fame, someone always claims that he/she is a Korean. We are tired of this. Nomo, Ichiro, Matsui, Iguchi and Taguchi, just name it, they are all Japanaese, OK??? Why don't you clam that infamous Irabu is a Korean too?! LOL (He is not Korean BTW)

>1. In WBC, Ichiro Suzuki made a speech to make light of Korean baseball, but Matsuzaka did not say any word about Korea.

First of all, Ichiro DIDNT take Koreans lightly. Some Koreans who have a huge complex toward to Japan were offended by him saying that he would like to make any WBC opponents to feel that they can't beat Japan for the next 30 years. He didn't specify any countries. Second, Matsuzaka didn't say anything because he has never been accused of being a Korean until now. Ichiro was accused of being a Korean so he was offended. He is proud to be Japanese so he denied it. Matsuzaka will do the same thing in the future if he finds it out.

2. One of the players he holds the greatest respect for is Kim Byung Hyun, because he won big fame in Boston Red Sox.

What??? You are wrong. He has stated many times that Nomo is the reason why he started aiming at the majors and he admires Pedro the most. Where is your source?

3. Most Japanese girls are addicted to Korean boys and wanna get married with them, and his wife is Japanese.

That's right, Japanese girls who are over 50 years old have gone crazy over Korean boys. Over 50, OK? LOL Because the way Koreans make a romantic drama is very similar to the one we had 30 - 40 years ago.

4. I hear that his grandparents were forced to go to Japan as a labor before Pacific War began. Their real name is Park, but they made themselves Matsuzaka to escape from discrimination in Japan.

You are wrong again. His grandparents are from the northern part of japan. I know where they are from. Name it.

5. It is well-known that the brilliant people in Asia are all descended from Koreans. Matsuzaka, having an excellent ability, is Korean, too.

OK, if you believe that, then why don't you guys add Irabu, Nakamura, little Matsui so on. (Again they are not Korean. They are Japanese) Why all the brillant people must be Korean? Do you think all the educated Americans believe that??? Of course NOT! I bet a moment Matsuzaka doesn't meet its expectations, he will be dumped by you and be a Japanese agaiin.

I hope any smart posters here won't believe this troll,,,,,



Edited 11/19/2006 3:24 pm ET by milkyway777
 
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From: slimshady2003  11/18/2006 11:02 pm 
To: milkyway777  (19 of 91) 
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Matsuzaka is indeed a Japanese of Korean ancestry, I believe.
 
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From: milkyway777  11/18/2006 11:13 pm 
To: slimshady2003  (20 of 91) 
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It is ok if you believe that, but you are wrong. More importantly if Matsuzaka finds out that there is a rumor like this, he woud make a statement to deny it just like Ichiro did.
 
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